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Post by prujoy3 on Jun 2, 2009 14:41:18 GMT 1
Hi,
Just thought I would share how I am going in my experience of CMR. I have been meditating as per CMR for 2 weeks now. Prior to that I had been meditating as per NSR for a bit over a month.
I had become most interested to try TM after reading all the bona fide results of independent research results. I remembered that I had actually started the TM training way back in 1975 ( ) but had had a very unfortunate experience straight after receiving the mantra. I had to drive a long way home & it was just on twilight. I quickly realised that I was not "all there" - I forgot to turn on the headlights & then I remember thinking that I should slow down a bit in case a kangaroo jumped out in front of the car but it was very difficult to make myself pay attention to driving.
Then all of a sudden the wheels hit some dirt on the side of the road as it rounded a corner & BAM! it just rolled & rolled down the road. I was able to get out of the car & had only suffered a deep cut to my knee. However, I was miles from any homesteads so it was a long walk through the pitch dark to some help. Needless to say I was VERY wary about TM after that.
And so fast forward to 2008 where I am diagnosed with Fibromyalgia after years of odd physical malfunctions until I was totally housebound. And I could see that a LOT of the results of TM could be applied to my own major symptoms i.e. brain "fog", physical fatigue, etc. So I thought I would really like to give that another go. So I naively contact the same TM center as originally. But they did not respond to my request for a "refresher" And I certainly couldn't afford the current price of over $2000
So I typed "independent transcendental meditation" into Google & Hey Ho - I found Natural Stress Relief And I certainly did see definite improvement in my general demeanor & actual ability to concentrate for longer periods. I felt lighter & brighter just about every day.
But then I also came across Gavin's Conscious Mental Rest. It sounded like just the right thing for my husband to try as he wasn't so keen on "mantras". He hasn't tried it yet but I have and after 2 weeks I can also say that I just continue to improve markedly in my whole brain function & physical ability.
Now this is REALLY saying something as I had spent the whole of the past 2 years trying so many different things both pharmaceutical, nutritional, pseudo brain science, etc, & NOTHING had improved my condition at all. So now I tell people that since meditating twice a day, that I am "quietly optimistic" about my improvement.
And, oh yes, my husband is definitely going to try CMR in his next holiday break (he teaches music & so has a couple of weeks off in between each term).
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Post by Gavin Hoole on Jun 2, 2009 15:42:35 GMT 1
Thanks prujoy! It is good to know you can already see positive change happening in your life and health. It's all a very subtle thing. And it requires regular daily application. I'm so pleased too that you are feeling so optimistic based on real benefits you've already noticed. And ... there is so much more to come on Unlock-Your-Happiness.com too. I just need to buy some more chunks of time from the Universe to get it all done. Wouldn't it be nice if we could buy pre-paid time chunk vouchers from the local supermarkets to top up the available hours in each day. Naaah ... not really. The basis of progress is Rest and Action. So we need those hours for rest too. All work and no fun makes Jack a dull boy. But it sure is fascinating when the "work" is fun! LOL Gavin
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Post by prujoy3 on Jun 3, 2009 0:28:59 GMT 1
Ha ha! thanks for my first laugh of the day Gavin "buying chunks of time fr the supermarket" - LUV it!
Yeah, I could do with some of those vouchers to go with reading yr fascinating "Riches" ebook & Self Health Plan
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Post by prujoy3 on Jun 3, 2009 0:39:47 GMT 1
In my meditations I am noticing that I have been "feeding" my mind with little "titbits" such as "think upon this .... " OR "feel this ....".
It is incredibly subtle but I am now noticing that it is there. Now what happens is that as soon as I feed it this "additive" then it will plunge into a noticeable "effect" with it, which I "feel" is "good". It is very similar to the effect of thinking upon the mantra (as per NSR & TM).
However, I am thinking that this is once again, just another example of how the mind wishes to be fed just such a "handle" for it grasp & thus not really "let go".
Soooo ... it is back to the bare bones of the Comfort Zone for me
PJ
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Post by Gavin Hoole on Jun 3, 2009 9:40:00 GMT 1
Pru, the method of Conscious Mental Rest you have learnt is one of the simplest and most effortless ways to allow the mind to settle down and move towards the transcendent field beyond thought. The CMR Enhancer which will be made available in the forseeable future offers an optional extra that can be incorporated into the CMR process by those who wish to use it. In addition, there will be more to come later too, in what will become a holistic yet simple package which will be something like A Course in Happiness. The blueprint for the total course package - which definitely includes CMR as its cornerstone - has already been documented. The nitty-gritty must still be expanded, documented and then recorded as audio files. This is part of the reason that I would like us to be able to buy pre-paid vouchers to top up the available time we have in each day. :-) So, yes, I would recommend that you stay with the CMR process as explained in the course you downloaded from the Unlock-Your-Happiness.com website. The process of CMR will allow you to tap into the field of bliss within, and that in turn will enliven the field and progressively unlock more of it to flow into daily life in terms of more happiness, better health and a total upliftment of your experience of living. Please, however, just follow the course guidelines as they are given, with no expectations for what might occur during your sessions. Thoughts and thinking are part of the process of stress relief, and the course materials explain how one should relate to these during one's CMR sessions. Remember, a key to gaining the most out of our CMR sessions is: no expectations and no effort, not even the effort to try and make it effortless. Even if it seems that we are just sitting there and nothing good is happening, it is. It is just our stresses that often prevent a clear experience of the experience. :-) CMR is for improving our lives in daily living, not for the experience of CMR itself. Thank you for your posting. Gavin www.Unlock-Your-Happiness.com
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Post by prujoy3 on Jun 4, 2009 11:38:27 GMT 1
Oh thank you Gavin - I found this most pertinent for my practice:
" no expectations and no effort, not even the effort to try and make it effortless."Phewwwww ....
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Post by prujoy3 on Jun 6, 2009 0:04:53 GMT 1
Things I like about CMR ...
* no tricky "PRECLUSIONS" i.e. yesterday I had a VERY stressful day from about 5 am in the morning until late so I had had a couple of glasses of red wine before my evening meditation. I really did wish to meditate but I hesitated, thinking "oh dear I have drunk alcohol - is it possible to meditate at all now???" But then I remembered that there are NO such preclusions in CMR & in NSR it was only "1 hour after drinking alcohol" (if I remember correctly). "Alcohol" had always been a VERY BIG "NO-NO" in any other meditation techniques I had tried.
And, oh yes, I did then go on to experience a most refreshing CMR session.
* IT'S SO EASY - YAHOOeeee!!! No tricky breathing & body techniques a la Yogananda's instructions.
I can just plonk down the INSTANT that I realise I have 25 minutes free & away I go - no fussy prep work necessary.
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Post by Gavin Hoole on Jun 6, 2009 7:27:51 GMT 1
Thanks for that feedback, Pru. Just to expand on that a little ... people do find that over time their preferences in various areas of life may spontaneously shift towards more life-supporting habits. I know of one case where a person reported that he was accustomed to eating a certain food item in his meals. One evening during dinner at home, he put the fork to his mouth and suddenly found that he just didn't 'want' that particular item included on the fork. As the fork was about to enter his mouth, his hand just stopped, to his great surprise, and he put the food back on his plate and placed another mouthful on the fork, but without that particular item. He noticed too that his heartburn and indigestion improved after that. And yes, some systems do insist on the initiate complying with certain rules before starting their practice - like not taking alcohol and meat - and to continue being an abstainer for the rest of one's life. In CMR (and also with TM and NSR), it is left up to the individual's own consciousness to guide them towards spontaneous appropriate action. In my upcoming Course in Happiness, which has CMR as its cornerstone, I will provide a programme with specific 'tools' to assist us in hearing those inner prompts of the body more clearly, so that our awareness is further sharpened and we are quicker to drop old habits when they no longer serve us. In that course we will address just three basic areas of thinking and behavior which are essential for assisting in the flow of happiness from within. But you can relax, none of them will be involved in telling you what you can drink or eat. Also, at the end of the course you will not have a whole host of 'things' to do or think. There will be only one habit that will encapsulate the others used during the course for the purpose of developing the final habit. :-) One of the key qualities or habits for happiness and joy is to be truthful and honest, starting with being true to oneself. And that will be discussed in the course too, with an interim tool to assist us. Like CMR, though, after the initial phase of culturing some basic habits during the course, the final 'tool' of the new course will be oh so simple. It will provide the second key to happiness mentioned on the website: to listen to the inner prompts in order to do what is appropriate and thereby support the flow of joy and happiness that is unlocked during CMR. Pru, it is really good to hear how you are obviously enjoying your life experience since starting the Conscious Mental Rest routine. You are an inspiration to me to get moving on filling in the gaps on the website! Gavin
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Post by prujoy3 on Jun 6, 2009 22:34:34 GMT 1
Thanks for that feedback, Pru. ... it is really good to hear how you are obviously enjoying your life experience since starting the Conscious Mental Rest routine. You are an inspiration to me to get moving on filling in the gaps on the website! Gavin Ha ha! - well, the feeling is mutual as I sure am looking forward to getting into those "gaps" too.
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Post by prujoy3 on Jun 8, 2009 0:00:47 GMT 1
How I have improved since meditating (NSR & CMR) ~
* prior to starting the TM-based meditation I had a real struggle with reaching for a glass of wine by the end of the day & sometimes even well before the end of the day! I was using wine as a "relaxant" - it soothed both my aching muscles & the feeling of deep frustration with my physical decline in health & ability. BUT I didn't really like it as a "solution" at all & would quite often swear that I would not use it at all.
However, there wasn't ANYTHING else to take it's place. I tried taking the Valium prescribed for me but it was soooooo heavy on my whole self that I kept it only for "emergencies" i.e. XXX muscle spasms.
Then it was recommended to me that Marijuana could be very helpful for pain, spasms, etc. So I decided to try that & oh brother, how difficult it was to even find some in a safe & reliable manner. But I did & I pressure cooked it up into a "butter extract" (as per instructions for medicinal use). But WOWEE! it was way too strong - sure it relaxed my muscles & a bit of my brain, as evidenced by my giggling quite a bit - but if I took even the tiniest bit too much I was catapulted into chaos - so I did not continue.
BUT only about one week into the meditation I definitely noticed that I had just about NO desire to reach for a glass of wine at the end of the day. I was most impressed. And it has just continued like this with less & less "interest" in it.
I only just noticed in the past few days with some very heavy stress i.e. death of a family member, that I have taken a glass or two again. But that does not bother me at all as I can see why I reached for it & I know that deep place within myself is still being repaired by CMR I was going to write up some more "improvements" but I think that is enough for today - I'll do some more tomorrow - see ya (as us Aussies say).
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Post by prujoy3 on Jun 9, 2009 0:04:25 GMT 1
OK ~ some more "improvements" ~
* there is a LOT more noticeable "laughter" in da house
* I can just "let go" of situations that formerly would have caused a negative response from me. This is such a good thing to both feel & observe - that there is "no reaction" - pheweee
* I am definitely sleeping MUCH deeper. I had been having a horrible time with my sleep since the doctor put me on a new "miracle" drug for Fibromyalgia - it caused long & intricate dreams, very similar to a computer game perhaps. And I would wake up feeling exhausted - not good for Fibromyalgia at all!
So in combination with a few other negative side effects I went off the drug but even getting off it took weeks of careful reduction. But then the dreams continued for another few weeks after that! My brain was still trying to eliminate the artificial "set-up".
But in the past 2 weeks I am hardly dreaming at all, well not enough to notice anyway & I am waking up feeling so refreshed that it is obvious I am sleeping much deeper.
* Much great ability to start & complete (ha ha!) tasks esp. creative projects like sewing & craft & cooking. Plus it is quite noticeable, even by my husband, that I am able to concentrate for longer periods of time without having to stop due to "brain fog" (brain fatigue or exhaustion).
Well, this will do for awhile but no doubt as more benefits come to my mind I will keep putting them on here
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Post by prujoy3 on Jun 9, 2009 0:11:05 GMT 1
Things I like about CMR ...
* no tricky "PRECLUSIONS" i.e. yesterday I had a VERY stressful day from about 5 am in the morning until late so I had had a couple of glasses of red wine before my evening meditation. I really did wish to meditate but I hesitated, thinking "oh dear I have drunk alcohol - is it possible to meditate at all now???" But then I remembered that there are NO such preclusions in CMR & in NSR it was only "1 hour after drinking alcohol" (if I remember correctly). "Alcohol" had always been a VERY BIG "NO-NO" in any other meditation techniques I had tried.
And, oh yes, I did then go on to experience a most refreshing CMR session.
* IT'S SO EASY - YAHOOeeee!!! No tricky breathing & body techniques a la Yogananda's instructions.
I can just plonk down the INSTANT that I realise I have 25 minutes free & away I go - no fussy prep work necessary.
I just remembered another "preclusion" that CMR does not require & that is the "eating" problem.
Even in NSR there was a bit of a tricky position of "not" meditating with food in yr stomach. So you had to watch that you were not meditating closer than 2 hrs from eating.
And, oh yes, you then also had to watch that you were not meditating 2 hours before sleeping - so CMR also frees you from this "stop" - you really can just meditate as soon as it is convenient for "you".
I knew that these 2 preclusions would definitely make it difficult for my husband to get in 2 sessions per day &, as a result, would just put him "off" it altogether. And hence why CMR is much more achievable for him.
PJ
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Post by Gavin Hoole on Jun 9, 2009 6:31:49 GMT 1
Thank you for your feedback Pru. I'm sure readers will find it useful an inspiring. I asked my herbal expert friend and neighbour David Townsend ( www.gavinhoole.ws/amorganic-glyconutrients2.htm ) yesterday whether he had developed a herbal product that would help with Fibromyalgia. He said he had done some work on it for local people here, but did not yet have a product that he could say for sure does in fact help. What he did say, however, was that he had received feedback from people who had said that large doses of magnesium have proved to be be helpful. Large doses in this case seems to mean several times the recommended dosage on the product label. You would need to buy magnesium locallly in Oz. David recommends that you supplement that with his Fulvic Acid Detox Nutrients which you could source from him via his website, or try to obtain some locally. David's Fulvic Acid is in capsule form, which makes it more palatable to take than the rather 'gross' liquid. As I understand it from David, Fulvic Acid 'converts' inorganic substances like magnesium into a form that can be more easily assimilated by the body, making it into a food form. If you buy magnesium in Oz, try to get some in a food form, if possible. I know that Sportron offer a FoodState range, and it includes a product called Calcitone which is a combo of Calcium and Potassium and Magnesium. But I would think that what you need is magnesium on its own. And I don't know whether Sportron has a presence in Oz anyway. But if you want to check them out, you can go via my portal in South Africa ( gavinhoole.sportron.co.za ) I know they have a US website too. ( www.sportron.com ). I myself use some of David's Amorganic products for general health support, and also some Sporton FoodState TM supplements, when I do take supplements. I'm no expert in this field, so if you want to find out more about David's suggeston for fibromyalgia, I suggest you make contact with him via his website, which you can access from a link in my introduction to David - on my own site: www.gavinhoole.ws/amorganic-glyconutrients2.htm (I see he has some images of his products on his Price List page. I hope this info is of some help to you and any other readers of this post.
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Post by prujoy3 on Jun 9, 2009 7:02:44 GMT 1
Thanks so much for the feedback re Fibromyalgia Gavin. I have over the past few years become aware of quite a few of those nutritional necessities. I was actually found by blood tests to be deficient in Magnesium which probably exacerbated the painful muscle spasms. So I watch that as much as I can but I do, as you also recommend, try to get most of my nutritional needs fr. food sources. I even discovered the wonders of Fulvic Acid & I thank you for reminding me of it & esp. of yr friend David's products - I will definitely look into those PJ
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Post by prujoy3 on Jun 9, 2009 8:41:04 GMT 1
With regard to the treatment of Fibromyalgia I should mention that my diagnosing rheumatologist first advised me that I should do Yoga & Meditation - yes, pretty "different" advice fr a doctor isn't it!
So I did learn a gentle form of Yoga suitable for not stressing sensitive muscles & I still do some every few days. However, it was not so easy to find a suitable meditation method. I finally just gave up trying. That is until I found CMR (& NSR) - what a relief!
PJ
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